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And get the witness name,
#20 that’s Orlando Martinez
Work city of LA robbery homicide.
What do you homicidd section investigate deaths.
16 years. Since May of 2005
One of lead investgating officers?
Yes.
Did work with Dan Myers and Scott Smith? Yes I did.
June 25th 2009,
Were you assined and workin on this case? yes.
Did you make efforts to make contact with the defendant in this case? I did
Was able to make contact on June 29th?
At somepoint on June 26th, made contact with Michael Penia?
Made arrangements to sit down and meet with the defendant,
Evening hours late afternoon? Afternoon.
Met with Mr. Pena on June 27th n a hotel.
Who went with you to location. Scott Smith.
Who was with him? Chernoff and Dr. Murray.
So, on the 27th not 29th (my note)
Mr. Penna and Chernoff, him and Det smith.
Inside a board room at hote.
Ws this interview recoreded ? Yes.
Did you begin you or det smith asking him about how he began his reationship with M. Jackson.
He said he first met MJ in 2006 through a patient’s son.
Referred becaue he was a cardiologist or as a dr in general? Just as a doctor in general. treated MJ children and MJ for flu in Las Vegas.
From that initial meeting to 2006 to the current interview, did you question Dr. M about his care preceeding the months 2009.
Dr. Murry said he received a phone call from Michael Amir williams requesting to treat him for the tour.
did Dr M tell you that MJ wanted him to accompany him on this London tour? Yes.
Did he give you more details or words to that effect? Yes.
According to Dr M, after this initial phone call from MAW, (answer) he said htat Mr. Jackson called him and was elated happy that he was going on the tour.
Did you question him on the treatment at MJ home. Dr. Murry said that for a little over 2 months been teating him, assisting him to sleep, He said nightly and he also said six days a week.
Different parts of the interview he said those two answers.
How did he say he was assisting . He would assist Mr. Jackson with 50 milligrams of propofol. An injection to get him to sleep and with an IV drip to keep him under.
Initial infusion followed by a drip? objection sustained.
You mentioned 50 milligrams, did he say that was 50 milligrams every night?
That was the maximum.
Did he say that was the total or the amount of one dose. ??? I don’t think I he specifically noted.
He told me it was a dosage, to put him under and then a speficic drip.
Throught this interview again, were both mr chernoff and Mr. pena present, at varous points in the inteview, did Dr. Murry ever tell you about a dependnecy issues that MJ had?
Yes he did. Did he reference that on more than one occasion in the interview ? yes he did.
Q... did Dr. Murry explain those last remaining evenings ? Yes.
What did he tell you. ? He felt that Mr. Jackson had developed a dependency on the propofol. So he decided to try to wean him off, and introduce other agents.
In describing these evenings, last couple days, did he tell you he’d been giving MJ propofol every single night for over 2 months? Yes.
Now, in these last three days then, according to Dr. Mthat he was attempting to wean M J off the propofol what did he do?
He lowered the amount of propofol and administered the other two drugs.
lorazapam and the midazalam.
How aout the following night, the second night of attempting to wean him off. He did not use any propofol and just jused the lorazapam and midazalam.
On that day June 25th, did he respond to the Carolwood residence? yes he did. He arrived around 12:50 am.
Who arrived first? according to Dr. M. ? Dr. M.
What did he do upon arrival.
he went to the room where he always treated Mr. J and waited. And that is the room the paramedics testified they found the decedent? Correct.
Did Dr. M. indicate what time MJ arrive.d He said MJ arrived around 1 am.
And what happened at that point. That MJ arrived upstiars, they had a brief discussion as to what went on that night and that MJ had a shower and changed.
Dr. M rubbed some skin lotion on MJ back. For a dermological conditon? Yes.
Did he begin using an IV. Yes. For what purpose? In either his right or left leg below the knee.
Was anyone else in the room? We asked that question ahd he always said no.
Placing the IV for hydration, did he describe what drugs he gave MJ?
What is the first thing that MJ was given.
2 pm 2 mil lorazapam diluted with saline. he siad he pushed it slowly.
Did he mention anythng about valium orally? 10 mg orally was that the first thing? Yes.
Then 2 am? 2 mil lorazapam with saline pushed it over hte course of 2 to 3 minutes.
He indicated this was done with a syringe? Yes.
Directly into a arm or leg or using the IV port? Using the IV Port.
This was slowy pushed using the syrings over 2 minutes accord to Dr M. ? correct.
Following this valium and the 2 am slow push of lorazapam, what occured next.
MJ remained awake for another hour, the n Dr. M. introduced 2 mg of diazopam (same method).
This was around 3 am.
Did he indicate he took the time to look at his watch?
So at 3 am, he gave 2 mil dizdo also injected slowly? Yes.
And according to Dr. M, did he fall asleeP/
He said that around 3:20 he fell asleep for 10 to 12 minutes.
Was it at that point where dr M said he had been looking at his watch? Correct.
And after following this 10 12 minutes Mr J woke again.
Dr m M turned down the lights turned on the music, and suggested that MR J meditate.
He then said, that MJ would have to cancel his shows, cancel his reherasals becuse he couldn’t slee.
Then dr murray gave him some moe drugs. Mirazapam. then.
It did not put MJ to sleep.
Asks to look at his notes to refresh his recollection.
Asking about following 5 am 2 miligrams of lorazapam.
Mr. J began to complain som more, about cancellations.
7L30 am. he indicates he game more drugs to MJ Yes.
Accoring to Dr. M, MJ is stil awake. Mr. J is complaining that he is still awake and pressure is being placed on him (about the cancellations)
What did he do at 7L30 he gave another 2 milligrams of diazopam.
It did not have any effect according to Dr. M.
10 am June 25th 2009, acc to Dr. M. what is happening.
MJ was still awake, and was asking for “milk” which was his name for propofol.
around 1040 or 1050, did he give propofol (acc to Dr. ) ? yes.
Did he look at his watch, Yes.
Acc to dr murray he had to look at his watch, to calculate (miss last)
He said he halfed his normal dose, gave him only 25 milligrams over 25 mnutes.
It was simply an injecton to put Mr. J asleep, and then a slow drip to keep him asleep.
According to the time the propofol was given, Dr. M was looking at the time, looking at his watch, did Mr. J. fall asleep? Yes.?
Did he indicate that was around 11 am? Yes.
What did Dr. murr do, after he fell asleep?
He said that he monitored him for a while. He was not snoring, and monitored him until he felt comfortable with Mr. J condition.
After did he indicate how long he monitored him after that (time? condition?)?
After he saw him fall asleep around 11 am, at some point did he say he felt comfortable leaving thepatient? Yes he did.
Did he tell you what he went to go do?
He went to relieve himself in the restorom.
DId he tell you what restroom he used? He did.
Identifies the restroom he used via photo.
The bathroom he used is depicted in People’s 9 (I think in MJ bathroom?)
From the bedroom, where MJ was, on peoples nine from left to right, is this the large room referred to as thecloset? Yes.
So one would have to walk throught the corridor between the bedroom and closet and then enter the bathroom? correct.
How long did Dr M sya he was gone ? Dr. M said he was gone approximately 2 minutes.
Transcript page 63. As you sit here today do you recall the exact words of Dr. Murray.
Generally.
would it referesh your memory to look at the transcript?
Page 63, line 22. Is that referencing, dr M speaking?
Objecton sustained. about referencing room 2 minutes.
Reask.
After Dr. Murrya after he returned from his 2 minute absence. He says that he was stunned to see that Mr. J was not breathing, because he was looing for breathing motions.
Please look at transcript pg 62 line 22...
refresh.
What did he say?
He was stunned to see that he wasn’t breathing, because he always looked at his chest and his diaphramatic motion.
What was the first thing he said he did, once he noticed MJ was not breating?
He started chest compressions.
And according to dr. Murray, what else did he do?
Mouth to mouth.
And accornidn to Dr. M, where was Mr. J. ? He was still in bed.
Did he switch back to checst compressions.
He described that he had one hand under his back suppoting his back. and the other hand on top of his chest.
Did he explain why he didn’t move MJ to the floor?
He said he could not move him to the floor by himself.
6 ft 5” 22o pounds
How much did jackson weigh?
obj sustained.
At this point in time, in the interview, did Dr. M offer a reason why he did not call the 911 operator. He said he was carrying for his patien and did want to interrupt it.
However, he did say he
Did he tell you afterward, he did take time to make a phone call. ? Yes.
Just prior to making this phone call, did he tell you he was holding thephone and making 1 handed chest compressions.
No audio
And get the witness name,
#20 that’s Orlando Martinez
Work city of LA robbery homicide.
What do you homicidd section investigate deaths.
16 years. Since May of 2005
One of lead investgating officers?
Yes.
Did work with Dan Myers and Scott Smith? Yes I did.
June 25th 2009,
Were you assined and workin on this case? yes.
Did you make efforts to make contact with the defendant in this case? I did
Was able to make contact on June 29th?
At somepoint on June 26th, made contact with Michael Penia?
Made arrangements to sit down and meet with the defendant,
Evening hours late afternoon? Afternoon.
Met with Mr. Pena on June 27th n a hotel.
Who went with you to location. Scott Smith.
Who was with him? Chernoff and Dr. Murray.
So, on the 27th not 29th (my note)
Mr. Penna and Chernoff, him and Det smith.
Inside a board room at hote.
Ws this interview recoreded ? Yes.
Did you begin you or det smith asking him about how he began his reationship with M. Jackson.
He said he first met MJ in 2006 through a patient’s son.
Referred becaue he was a cardiologist or as a dr in general? Just as a doctor in general. treated MJ children and MJ for flu in Las Vegas.
From that initial meeting to 2006 to the current interview, did you question Dr. M about his care preceeding the months 2009.
Dr. Murry said he received a phone call from Michael Amir williams requesting to treat him for the tour.
did Dr M tell you that MJ wanted him to accompany him on this London tour? Yes.
Did he give you more details or words to that effect? Yes.
According to Dr M, after this initial phone call from MAW, (answer) he said htat Mr. Jackson called him and was elated happy that he was going on the tour.
Did you question him on the treatment at MJ home. Dr. Murry said that for a little over 2 months been teating him, assisting him to sleep, He said nightly and he also said six days a week.
Different parts of the interview he said those two answers.
How did he say he was assisting . He would assist Mr. Jackson with 50 milligrams of propofol. An injection to get him to sleep and with an IV drip to keep him under.
Initial infusion followed by a drip? objection sustained.
You mentioned 50 milligrams, did he say that was 50 milligrams every night?
That was the maximum.
Did he say that was the total or the amount of one dose. ??? I don’t think I he specifically noted.
He told me it was a dosage, to put him under and then a speficic drip.
Throught this interview again, were both mr chernoff and Mr. pena present, at varous points in the inteview, did Dr. Murry ever tell you about a dependnecy issues that MJ had?
Yes he did. Did he reference that on more than one occasion in the interview ? yes he did.
Q... did Dr. Murry explain those last remaining evenings ? Yes.
What did he tell you. ? He felt that Mr. Jackson had developed a dependency on the propofol. So he decided to try to wean him off, and introduce other agents.
In describing these evenings, last couple days, did he tell you he’d been giving MJ propofol every single night for over 2 months? Yes.
Now, in these last three days then, according to Dr. Mthat he was attempting to wean M J off the propofol what did he do?
He lowered the amount of propofol and administered the other two drugs.
lorazapam and the midazalam.
How aout the following night, the second night of attempting to wean him off. He did not use any propofol and just jused the lorazapam and midazalam.
On that day June 25th, did he respond to the Carolwood residence? yes he did. He arrived around 12:50 am.
Who arrived first? according to Dr. M. ? Dr. M.
What did he do upon arrival.
he went to the room where he always treated Mr. J and waited. And that is the room the paramedics testified they found the decedent? Correct.
Did Dr. M. indicate what time MJ arrive.d He said MJ arrived around 1 am.
And what happened at that point. That MJ arrived upstiars, they had a brief discussion as to what went on that night and that MJ had a shower and changed.
Dr. M rubbed some skin lotion on MJ back. For a dermological conditon? Yes.
Did he begin using an IV. Yes. For what purpose? In either his right or left leg below the knee.
Was anyone else in the room? We asked that question ahd he always said no.
Placing the IV for hydration, did he describe what drugs he gave MJ?
What is the first thing that MJ was given.
2 pm 2 mil lorazapam diluted with saline. he siad he pushed it slowly.
Did he mention anythng about valium orally? 10 mg orally was that the first thing? Yes.
Then 2 am? 2 mil lorazapam with saline pushed it over hte course of 2 to 3 minutes.
He indicated this was done with a syringe? Yes.
Directly into a arm or leg or using the IV port? Using the IV Port.
This was slowy pushed using the syrings over 2 minutes accord to Dr M. ? correct.
Following this valium and the 2 am slow push of lorazapam, what occured next.
MJ remained awake for another hour, the n Dr. M. introduced 2 mg of diazopam (same method).
This was around 3 am.
Did he indicate he took the time to look at his watch?
So at 3 am, he gave 2 mil dizdo also injected slowly? Yes.
And according to Dr. M, did he fall asleeP/
He said that around 3:20 he fell asleep for 10 to 12 minutes.
Was it at that point where dr M said he had been looking at his watch? Correct.
And after following this 10 12 minutes Mr J woke again.
Dr m M turned down the lights turned on the music, and suggested that MR J meditate.
He then said, that MJ would have to cancel his shows, cancel his reherasals becuse he couldn’t slee.
Then dr murray gave him some moe drugs. Mirazapam. then.
It did not put MJ to sleep.
Asks to look at his notes to refresh his recollection.
Asking about following 5 am 2 miligrams of lorazapam.
Mr. J began to complain som more, about cancellations.
7L30 am. he indicates he game more drugs to MJ Yes.
Accoring to Dr. M, MJ is stil awake. Mr. J is complaining that he is still awake and pressure is being placed on him (about the cancellations)
What did he do at 7L30 he gave another 2 milligrams of diazopam.
It did not have any effect according to Dr. M.
10 am June 25th 2009, acc to Dr. M. what is happening.
MJ was still awake, and was asking for “milk” which was his name for propofol.
around 1040 or 1050, did he give propofol (acc to Dr. ) ? yes.
Did he look at his watch, Yes.
Acc to dr murray he had to look at his watch, to calculate (miss last)
He said he halfed his normal dose, gave him only 25 milligrams over 25 mnutes.
It was simply an injecton to put Mr. J asleep, and then a slow drip to keep him asleep.
According to the time the propofol was given, Dr. M was looking at the time, looking at his watch, did Mr. J. fall asleep? Yes.?
Did he indicate that was around 11 am? Yes.
What did Dr. murr do, after he fell asleep?
He said that he monitored him for a while. He was not snoring, and monitored him until he felt comfortable with Mr. J condition.
After did he indicate how long he monitored him after that (time? condition?)?
After he saw him fall asleep around 11 am, at some point did he say he felt comfortable leaving thepatient? Yes he did.
Did he tell you what he went to go do?
He went to relieve himself in the restorom.
DId he tell you what restroom he used? He did.
Identifies the restroom he used via photo.
The bathroom he used is depicted in People’s 9 (I think in MJ bathroom?)
From the bedroom, where MJ was, on peoples nine from left to right, is this the large room referred to as thecloset? Yes.
So one would have to walk throught the corridor between the bedroom and closet and then enter the bathroom? correct.
How long did Dr M sya he was gone ? Dr. M said he was gone approximately 2 minutes.
Transcript page 63. As you sit here today do you recall the exact words of Dr. Murray.
Generally.
would it referesh your memory to look at the transcript?
Page 63, line 22. Is that referencing, dr M speaking?
Objecton sustained. about referencing room 2 minutes.
Reask.
After Dr. Murrya after he returned from his 2 minute absence. He says that he was stunned to see that Mr. J was not breathing, because he was looing for breathing motions.
Please look at transcript pg 62 line 22...
refresh.
What did he say?
He was stunned to see that he wasn’t breathing, because he always looked at his chest and his diaphramatic motion.
What was the first thing he said he did, once he noticed MJ was not breating?
He started chest compressions.
And according to dr. Murray, what else did he do?
Mouth to mouth.
And accornidn to Dr. M, where was Mr. J. ? He was still in bed.
Did he switch back to checst compressions.
He described that he had one hand under his back suppoting his back. and the other hand on top of his chest.
Did he explain why he didn’t move MJ to the floor?
He said he could not move him to the floor by himself.
6 ft 5” 22o pounds
How much did jackson weigh?
obj sustained.
At this point in time, in the interview, did Dr. M offer a reason why he did not call the 911 operator. He said he was carrying for his patien and did want to interrupt it.
However, he did say he
Did he tell you afterward, he did take time to make a phone call. ? Yes.
Just prior to making this phone call, did he tell you he was holding thephone and making 1 handed chest compressions.